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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2017 20:04:55 GMT
How our Voice is Heard:
In order for our Government to work in a manner that the citizens desires, the citizens need to exercise their FULL VOICE. Without our Full Voice the Government has a much freer hand in doing what it wants. Without our Full Voice it becomes much more difficult to make the Government ACCOUNTABLE.
The different electoral system will reflect how the Voice of the Voters will be Heard;
1. First-Past-The-Post (FPTP) is our current system. Far too often it is the Voice of the Minority of Voters that is heard. The Voice of the Majority is too often ignored. This in effect MUFFLES the Voice of the Electorate. It makes it almost impossible to make the Government accountable.
2. Proportional Representation (PR) in all of its many forms divides the Voice of the Voters into many small groups. Each group has its own priorities (policies). This division creates a norm of Minority Governments. This environment of Minority Governments leaves the Government open to being in a state of "stalemate" where there is no working government. This we have observed in many European governments - Belgium holds the record of 500 days without a working government (2010 - 2011) - Spain in 2016 went 9 months without a working government. In 2017 Germany had a Nationalist Party (pro-Nazi) elected for the first time since the end of World War II. There are many more such examples of a divided Voice of the Electorate. Many Voters may elect a representative, but it could easily be a non-working government. With the Voice of the Electorate so DIVIDED gives extreme Parties opportunity to gain power.
This division of the Voters' Voice also creates a environment that breeds "Lobbyists of Corporations" to play one group of representatives off against another group of representatives. This is not in the best interests of the Electorate - the Lobbyists may have more pull on our government than the Electorate has. This division also makes it much more difficult to make the Government accountable. This dividing the Voice of the Electorate creates a "Divide & Conquer" environment.
3. Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) requires the elected representative to have a Majority of Voters' support. The Voters unite their Voice to decide on their representative in each individual Riding. The Government now represents the Majority of Voters. Requiring the Majority of votes makes the representative and their Party much more ACCOUNTABLE as achieving a Majority of votes is not an easy accomplishment. If the Electorate is not happy with their representative the next election the representative will not likely have a Majority of votes. This level of Accountability moves the Electorate on a more level field with the "Lobbyists". IRV also promotes a Majority Government that is more accountable but able to carry-on with a working government. With a UNITED Voice the government has clear direction in how we are to be governed. IRV Unites the Voice of the Electorate.
With a United Voice and a Working Government we can accomplish a lot more on
Climate Change, Pipelines, Jobs staying here, and many more important issues. |
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Post by nelsongrc on Dec 16, 2017 4:01:19 GMT
While I am disappointed if my vote does not win in my riding, I truly do not want a minority government or a hodge lodge of many parties and special interest groups. I am not convinced of the legitimacy of voting not to win. Voting against something is a cop out (imo), you cannot hav everything you want in any politician, party or life. I need to be convinced of a "better" count.
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2017 4:15:58 GMT
I agree, nelsongrc, we need majority governments if we want any real and substantial decisions made. IRV gives us this.
The PR supporters talk about the many different Parties working together. We really need to have the Electorate working together in a stronger democracy. How can we expect the Parties to work together when the electorate are fighting among themselves. We need the electorate to work together in order to have a government acting in their interests.
IRV requires the Electorate to work together to elect the best candidate to represent them and their community.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2017 14:05:52 GMT
Germany's 2017 Election:
The recent Germany election in October 2017 demonstrates the possible problems that a divided voice can have. For the first time since the end of World War II a Nationalist Party (pro-Nazi) has established seats in the German government (over 90 seats). This Nationalist Party is now the 3rd largest party in the German government. If the Largest Party and the Second Largest Party form the Coalition it will mean the Nationalist Party will be the Official Opposition Party and have certain advantages in the House.
This forces the Largest Party to try and form a Coalition with the TWO smaller Parties (one of the two being the Green Party). A Coalition with 3 Parties is very difficult to maintain for the term of the election (4 years). It makes for a very unstable government!
This is a very expected outcome when the electorates' voice is divided. It may not be a pro-Nazi Party but any extreme Party could gain power. Any extreme Party can easily become dominate when the electorate is so divided. |
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Post by Art appreciator on Jan 5, 2018 7:14:50 GMT
How many white christian males have been elected as leader of Canada since voting started?
Thats whats wrong with majority rules..
Often those that dont agree are made minorities...by force...
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2018 7:25:05 GMT
How many white christian males have been elected as leader of Canada since voting started? Thats whats wrong with majority rules.. Often those that dont agree are made minorities...by force... That is the problem - the MAJORITY does not elect the leaders it is the MINORITY that elects the leaders. In 2011 it was around 39% of the voters that elected Harper, in 2015 it was around 39% of the voters that elected Trudeau. In my math 39% is a MINORITY that elects `white christian males`. We have rarely had any MAJORITY RULE in Canada since the 1920s. This is why we need Electoral Reform. PR gives more authority to the MINORITIES and keeps the electorate divided into many minority groups. We need a system that UNITES the electorate into a Majority that can have their say. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 17, 2018 22:39:14 GMT
While I am disappointed if my vote does not win in my riding, I truly do not want a minority government or a hodge lodge of many parties and special interest groups. I am not convinced of the legitimacy of voting not to win. Voting against something is a cop out (imo), you cannot hav everything you want in any politician, party or life. I need to be convinced of a "better" count. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Majority governments are common under IRV as it UNITES the voters in each Community.
PR in ALL of its many forms is solely dedicated into SPLINTERING the voters into small self-interest groups that we call Parties, this often results in minority governments.
You are correct in that we cannot have everything we, personally, want in any political system or in LIFE in general. However, we can work with our fellow Community voters to reach a common goal or result. This is what IRV offers.
Democracy is about working together to reach a common goal.
Our Democracy has been twisted into some sort of DEBATE club to see what goal we are after. The view of a common goal is seen as ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. |
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